Would you rather?

"For sure I would've given up gut health. I would've been like, give me the Tums because of this pain. Like, it was just so, overwhelming. But then for some people Tums isn't enough. They have to like go on to use other things like acid blockers, not just acid neutralizers. They go on to use more because it's not enough. Tums becomes not enough. And heartburn is so bothersome. But, fast forward, you know, like 10, 12 years. And I learned that one of the reasons most people have heartburn is because they don't have enough stomach acid."

[00:00:00] Sydney: Hey, this is Nikki and Sydney. And this is episode 72. Would you rather, this is fearless wellness, a podcast that has made for women who are experiencing hormone issues and who are feeling overwhelmed.

[00:00:13] Nikki: Here we will give you bite-sized tips to help you balance your hormones and nourish your body. So you can have more energy, and happiness. we’re your hosts, Nikki Walton. 

[00:00:23] Sydney: And Sydney.

[00:00:25] Nikki:  We want to be your health coaches. Ready? Let’s go. 

[00:00:29] Sydney: I love playing. Would you rather with the kids, it’s one of our favorite things to play at dinnertime, especially when cousins are around. I feel like that’s like our go-to game is, would you rather, and I really enjoy it. Would you rather, usually I like the ones that are like positive ones where it’s like, would you rather fly or be able to.

[00:00:46] Like breathe under water. I don’t know. You know what I mean? Like I, I kind of like superpower ones.

[00:00:52] Nikki: we always like the ones that are like funny. Like, would you rather hear a sea chord in your, in your ear every time someone says the word fun or would you rather would you rather sneeze uncontrollably twice? Every time someone says the word, um, like sunshine Not bad or good, but just kind

[00:01:16] Sydney: Yeah, Uhhuh. Oh, I like that. You’re gonna have to tell me some of yours. That’s fun. But today we do have some, would you rathers and this is, would you rathers that are, have a little bit more to do with delayed gratification. So there there’s always a trade off for everything we choose to do in our lives.

[00:01:31] And so I’d like to start off with a definition of a sacrifice. So. When I looked it up, the definition of a sacrifice is an act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy. So, you know, a very simple example of this is that Nikki and I coach people on how to cut back.

[00:01:54] On refined foods in their lives. How to, um, take action in paying attention to your mindfulness, how to optimize digestion, to like slow down into your food, how to like, do all these things. Right. And all of these things require a degree of sacrifice, a sacrifice of time, little bit of sacrifice of money, sacrifice of what we, what we have thoughts that we really like to hold onto.

[00:02:17] There’s. An act, it’s an act of giving up something that we value for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy. So, uh, when you are feeling terrible, try taking on, um, some sort of a new lifestyle with nutritional therapy, it sounds really hard, but if you want to take your life from a four to a.

[00:02:39] Out of 10, it’s totally worth it. And it’s gonna require some sort of delayed gratification. And so today we’re gonna talk about, would you rather let’s play a game of, would you rather nutritional therapy style? So Nikki I’ll ask you first, would you rather give up emotional eating with that accompanied, you know, like rush of dopamine or whatever, or give up, um, having steady.

[00:03:05] Nikki: a really hard question. because when you’re in the moment of emotional eating, it seems like nothing is more important than, than feeding your emotions and like feeling safe and feeling loved and feeling accepted and feeling. Your feelings just really especi. Like for me, they determine my reality in that moment.

[00:03:28] And so my reality has nothing to do with energy. It has everything to do with, with studying my emotions in that moment. So when I’m in that moment, I’m like, I would rather not care. Like I don’t care about energy. I only care about this moment, but then when I’m not in that moment and I’m feeling like. I haven’t slept in weeks, even though I am, I know that I am sleeping, but it just feels like my energy is being sucked from me from this unknown power.

[00:03:57] And I can’t even. I can’t even get simple tasks done around the house or like any little stressful, slightly stressful thing sets me off. I’m like, I don’t care. I’ll give up whatever it takes. , I’ll give up whatever it takes to just feel normal, to not feel like I have chronic fatigue to not feel like my legs don’t weigh 500 pounds each.

[00:04:17] Like I’m dragging them up the stairs. So it is such a hard question. Such a

[00:04:21] Sydney: well put that is so well put, I love the, the visual of it. Like I can just imagine, because I feel like a lot of our lives. That live now in this modern world, feel like that a lot of times where sometimes you’re like, feel outta control and you can’t control the emotional eating, but then other times you’re like, I’m done.

[00:04:40] Nikki: Yeah. And so like you would have to catch me at a time where I was, where I’m fed right. And where I’ve. Where I’ve had like a good night’s sleep and where I have my wits about me, or you’d have to catch me at like a desperate time in either of those circumstances. Right. So it’s like, I’ve, I’ve done the infinity circle around my kitchen for like hours and weeks at a time.

[00:05:07] And I feel trapped, you know, like I, and I know that I need an intervention to get out or you’ve ha or you would have to catch me at a very desperate time with my. Like you just have to catch me at the right time to inspire me to want to make some changes. Okay, Sydney, here’s another one for you. Would you rather give up convenience foods or give up years of life where you’re healthy enough to enjoy living? rhetorical.

[00:05:37] Sydney: I know, I know, but the reason why we’re talking about them is because these are actually hard things for people to do. It is really hard to give up here. Here’s some of the reasons that we might hear from a client, why it would be really hard to give up convenience foods. And when I say convenience foods, I’m talking about cold cereal.

[00:05:56] I’m talking about grab and go kind of snacks, uh, bagels. The snack packs for kids, the drive through lines. Um, some others might be where. Like boxed meals or soda. So here’s a couple of the things that we might hear from a client is that one of the reasons why they would hate to give these things up is because they really hate planning meals.

[00:06:23] And they think that it just takes, it saves them so much time that they’re a really busy lifestyle. They’re packed from the beginning of the morning till the end of the night. And they don’t have time. To make foods. I, I do totally know so many people like this and it is really, really hard to give up convenient foods.

[00:06:45] and it, it also, it has been chemically and physically changed to really satisfy and hit some dopamine buttons. It’s like ding, ding, ding, whether it’s sugar or salt or some oils in there that are not good for us. And the packaging is very pleasing to look at. And there’s just a lot of things that you give up.

[00:07:07] But here’s a few reasons that we hear from clients about why they would rather choose real foods. Myself included is that real foods made at home purchasing real ingredients and making them, planning your meals, making a shopping list, making sure you have the things ahead of time, hawing your meat the night before, like kind of like the planning ahead sort of lifestyle and making a lot of your foods at home.

[00:07:31] Most of your foods at home, these are the reasons. I’ve heard clients say they love it. And why I love it too, is because it just tastes so good. You can, there’s no chemicals in it. There’s no artificial flavors and, and preservatives and colors. It tastes so good. It is full of delicious fats and proteins and real salt and whole food carbs.

[00:07:56] It has a lot of textures and colors and flavors. That are real and nourishing. And then probably the biggest reason why, why clients would rather choose these real foods is because it feels so good, less pain, less bloating, more energy. And then, and then with all of these things combined, hopefully it’s the longer life.

[00:08:20] It’s the longer life with less suffering, the ability to get up and down stairs to the ability to get up and down on the floor, playing with your grandkids, playing with your great grandkids on the floor. And, and so real food that switching the convenience. Um, I feel like. It is the ultimate definition of a sacrifice where you’re giving up something that you value, which is the easiness of grabbing food that is in a package or driving through a drive through, um, giving up that convenience does cost you a little bit more time.

[00:08:54] Really not much more. It’s not actually that big of a sacrifice. The time it takes for me to make food home is not actually not that big, but it takes a switch. It takes a transition. So that sacrifice of making that transition, um, It is. A huge investment that pays off way more than you can imagine, where you make this transition from like giving up a little bit of convenience and learning a new lifestyle.

[00:09:19] And then you end up with this ability to feel amazing and have energy and ideas and live longer and suffer less and all of this great stuff. Right. So I I’d say that, like once you get over that transition pain, you probably feel like you have way more time. Even in a 24 hour day, because your thoughts are clear, your mood, it’s like more steady.

[00:09:40] You, you have the ability to deal with stuff, eat more easily. You get to the end of the day. And you’re not like feeling like desperate. And like you need a, a, you need a bowl of ice cream to finish off the day and then sleep terrible and wake up tired and all that stuff. Um, you just have so much more energy and happiness to get the things done and achieve the kind of lifestyle that you really want to live.

[00:10:02] So I would definitely. I would definitely rather have the longer life with less pain. So Nikki, here’s another one for you. Would you rather have a Coke, zero or a diet Coke or have, self sustained all day long energy.

[00:10:21] Nikki: This is a great question. I wanna hear your response to it too, because I have never been a Coke drinker ever. so I’m gonna talk, I’m gonna ask you the same question, but I’m also gonna talk about my clients that are Coke drinkers, but I also wanna say something really quick about convenience foods that, um, I just, I hear this over and over and over again, like literally over and over and over again.

[00:10:41] But when I go to a restaurant, I just want to get a free pass and people don’t say that the clients don’t say that. Outrightly, but that’s in essence what they’re saying, it’s like, that’s why you want to go to a restaurant. It’s like, you’re paying somebody to make choices for you. And you’re paying somebody to take responsibility for you in that moment.

[00:11:03] And that’s what people love. It’s like, I wanna go out to eat because I want to make fewer choices and I just can’t handle. It’s like decision fatigue. I just can’t handle. Making so many choices for myself now. And so I know I need to eat. And so I’m just gonna hand over that responsibility to somebody else.

[00:11:20] Sydney: that’s a good point. And when you said that, I thought of at least five decisions that they’re handing over to people like the decision of what meal to eat, what, what ingredients to put in how to cook it, blah, blah, blah. Like, and. When I make a, a dessert at home, I’m like, oh my goodness. I’m not putting that in there.

[00:11:37] You know what I mean? Like we’re, but then people hand over that, that guilt of putting, uh, junk food into something that they’re eating to the factory’s hands. They don’t have to see it. All they see is a beautiful package and something that tastes good.

[00:11:49] Nikki: Yes, you’re paying for ignorance. like, I wanna just pretend that nothing that I, I just wanna pretend that this all just doesn’t matter. And I’m gonna pay you to help me live that live in that pretend world. And when I go into a restaurant, nothing matters. And then when I leave, I know that I’m over. Like, I know that I’m full, but I don’t understand to what extent I’ve handed over my health to somebody else.

[00:12:16] Sydney: Yeah.

[00:12:18] Nikki: It’s just, and, but all under the, all under the emotional guys that we’ve treated ourselves or that, you know, I deserve this because I’ve put in a hard day or I just can’t make one more decision for my family. So let’s just get in the car and go through a drive through, or it’s just, it’s just so interesting that you don’t understand what you hand over when you, when you, when you make that choice, when you make that convenience foods choice.

[00:12:42] And I think, another aspect of it is the social aspect of it with eating out with people. It’s like, you don’t have to be serving someone. And so you can sit there and enjoy the meal, right? Like that’s why I would like to go out to eat is because I don’t wanna be the one serving someone, all the.

[00:13:01] but There are more ways to create an emotional connection with someone that you love than by eating out there just are like, you can go for a walk together. It’s free.

[00:13:13] Sydney: It’s good for you.

[00:13:15] Nikki: It is good for you. Right? And so that, that is so hard though. That is so hard is figuring out different ways to create connections with people that don’t involve food and then ultimately finding restaurants or, or just making those lifestyle choices to where you can have the food and create the emotional connection without handing over your health to somebody else.

[00:13:38] So, anyway, that was kind of, that was kind of, you know, a little side note there, but I just wanted to share that.

[00:13:43] Sydney: a really good one. I

[00:13:44] Nikki: Yeah, so, okay, so Coke, zero, so many clients are just like, but, but I can’t give it up, but I can’t give it up. And I love to ask, like what Dr. Mike taught us, you know, the five, the five whys.

[00:13:57] why, why can’t you give it up? Well, I’m addicted. Okay. Why are you addicted? Well, because it makes me happy. Okay. Why does it make you happy? Well, because it gives me. Okay. So why does it give you energy? Well, because I don’t have any, before I drink it. Why don’t you have any energy before you drink it? Well, I guess because I don’t sleep well.

[00:14:18] Well, why don’t you sleep well? Well, I guess because, and then we enter as nutritional therapy practitioners and say, because in very simple terms, when you’re eating sugar during the day, you train your body to need it at night, but then you’re not giving it any sugar at night. So it’s up all night looking for the sugar.

[00:14:37] And so, okay, great. So now we’ve gotten to the bottom of why you don’t wanna give up your Coke zero and now we understand. It would be beneficial to you in the long term to give it up. And then the exciting thing is when they do just take that step in the dark and say, okay, I’ll just take your word for it.

[00:14:58] Even though I totally don’t believe you at all. It’s so cool. I’ll just this client that I’m working with right now. She gave up her Coke finally, after months and months and months, she finally gave it up and she’s like, I have to tell you. And I’m like, Ooh, I can’t wait. she’s like I noticed. Fewer mistakes at work this last week than I’ve had in a long time.

[00:15:21] And she’s like an accountant, like works with J I mean, like very meticulous, right? So this is a big deal to her. And so after not drinking it and giving up other things with regarding sugar to balance her blood sugar, she’s like, my anxiety is lower and I noticed fewer mistakes at work and I’m like, okay.

[00:15:41] That is exciting. That’s super exciting. Just that little thing after noticing just like a couple of weeks, noticing that difference is, is huge. And so that is a, that’s a good reason. That’s a great reason. That’s a, that’s a, would you rather, why would you wanna give up Coke? Zero. Another reason is because firmer skin and detoxing and less sugar, sugar cravings in the long run steadier energy, because you are, you are not training your body to need sugar during the day.

[00:16:11] And so it learn. How to, and it, and it stabilizes at night and you actually get good sleep, which leads to the firmer skin because you’re rejuvenating your body throughout the night. And not only is Coke, zero not contributing to your hydration for the day, it’s actually taking away from it. And so if you’re concerned about bone health or joint health, then you definitely want to give up Coke zero in the long term so that you’re not super dehydrated.

[00:16:35] So Sydney, what about you with your, with your soda history?

[00:16:43] Sydney: Soda history. I did. I feel like I had probably my teenage years and college years, I had Coke and I was definitely not addicted because I was so cheap. I was so frugal that like, that was like a luxury item. But I did when I was younger, like maybe teenage years cuz I wasn’t buying it. And um, and then I didn’t have a lot of it because I was a poor college student, but I came home in the summers and, uh, I’d be so tired.

[00:17:14] I’d be at my desk job during the summers and falling asleep. And I remember one day I was like, wait a second, cuz you know, at BYU they didn’t have caffeinated drinks like readily available. Maybe they do know, I don’t know, but they didn’t. And so I was like, There’s like a mountain Dew right there in the, in, you know, in the vending machine.

[00:17:36] So I went and got a mountain Dew and I drank that thing and it tasted so good. And I was, I got so much energy, no more sleeping at my computer. I was actually afraid that I was gonna fall asleep at my computer and someone was gonna, and someone was gonna come around the corner. And find me asleep and be like, you can’t work here anymore.

[00:17:59] like, you’re, you’re asleep at your desk. You’re supposed to be doing your job. You, you need to find another job. Like I was afraid of like losing my job because I couldn’t stay awake at that computer in the afternoon. And I didn’t make changes until what, 15 years later. And so like at that point I kept using.

[00:18:18] but if it was now a hundred percent, like I, I do not fall asleep at three in the afternoon. I don’t get tired. So like when it’s, when it’s time to, um, to go on road trips and it’s like, afternoon time. I totally sign up for the afternoon shift, cuz that is when my husband crashes. he’s like we just had lunch, I’m dying.

[00:18:40] I have to go to sleep. I’m like awesome. I have got this all day long. I can do afternoons all day long. And, and then, you know, like, come, come 10 o’clock I’m like, I’m dying. I can’t stay awake when I want to be going to sleep. Right. Like it’s I feel like I have the routine that I want to have with my. I have energy during the day.

[00:18:58] I’m tired at night and I sleep and I wake up refreshed, ready to go. And, and it, it’s such a great switch where I switch. I changed sugar and caffeine for real foods, and it gives me energy all day long.

[00:19:12] Nikki: It’s so I love that Sydney because I’m thinking of myself too. It’s like, we , my family makes fun of me because at nine 30 they’re like, she can’t even keep her eyes open. I’m like, yeah, it’s just, it’s so fun to be tired at night and to be awake during the day. I mean, it’s, it’s

[00:19:31] Sydney: so novel.

[00:19:33] Nikki: Right. It really it’s so novel.

[00:19:35] It is so novel. Like why, what, what do you love most about your life? Well, I love the fact that I’m tired at night and I’m awake during the day. Like, I really wonder how many people in a group of 10 would be able to say that.

[00:19:47] Sydney: mm-hmm

[00:19:48] Nikki: So. Cool. Okay. So here’s your next, would you rather question, would you rather give up Tums for your heartburn or give up your gut?

[00:19:57] Sydney: Ooh, this is a good one. Kent. I have both. That’s like the, would you rather like end question? You’re like, I can’t choose. So

[00:20:06] Nikki: the game.

[00:20:06] Sydney: now I know which one I would choose, but when I was pregnant with my first child, um, I discovered heartburn for the first time in my life. And it was really, really bad. Like I, I slept on a mound of pillows so I could sleep basically sitting up.

[00:20:26] I, uh, felt like I had to stop eating. Five hours before bedtime so that there was no food in my stomach because that took that long to digest. I felt like, um, so I remember, uh, one time maybe I was like eight months pregnant or something like that. And Chad and I went on a trip, uh, for our anniversary. He was born like around then.

[00:20:46] So we went on a trip just like overnight and I forgot my Tums. So I, I ate Tums like candy and I forgot my Tums and I was. Oh, no, I’m gonna die. Like, I felt like I couldn’t live without some sort of ANAC acid in my life. And so we were there, the heartburn was getting so bad. It was just burning my throat.

[00:21:07] I couldn’t focus on anything. I couldn’t watch a movie. I couldn’t go on a hike. It was so bad. And it was so bad that I was like, I have to get the food outta my stomach. So like for the first time in my life, and probably the last time in my life, I made myself throw up. Like I went into the bathroom and I was like, I have to get this food out.

[00:21:24] And I made myself throw up and it was disgusting. I’ve never thrown up during pregnancy. Well, maybe ever, but like anyway, I made myself throw up and it didn’t fix anything. It still kept bubbling up like nasty, horrible burning feeling into my throat and my, and my esophagus and I was M. And at that point, if you would’ve asked me that question, would you rather give up Tums or would you rather give up, uh, gut health?

[00:21:50] I, for sure would’ve given up gut health. I would’ve been like, give me the Tums because of this pain. Like, it was just so, um, overwhelming and, and of course it goes in waves for a lot of people it’s usually after you eat. Um, and so it’s probably. And, but then for some people Tums isn’t enough. They have to like go on to use other things like acid blockers, not just acid neutralizers.

[00:22:14] They go on to use more because it’s not enough. Tums becomes not enough. And heartburn is so bothersome. Um, but fast forward, you know, like 10, 12 years. And I learned that and I learned that one of the main reasons why I had heart. Well, pregnancy can actually have a mechanical thing going on too. But one of the reasons most people have heartburn is because they don’t have enough stomach acid.

[00:22:42] And that when you don’t have enough stomach acid, your food stays in your stomach longer bubbling and, and pushing its way out of this Fier. That is weakened because there’s not enough stomach acid. So come to find out the big problem is not that I had too much stomach acid. I had too little and that during pregnancy number six, when I started to feel that I took more stomach acid, like a stomach acid booster and totally resolved it.

[00:23:12] Didn’t have to suffer through my digestion, meaning stomach acid. The things that go on in my stomach are the things that help me to be healthy. Stomach acid, digest proteins. You need proteins to create a healthy future self. You need proteins to create a baby. Like I was trying to do you need, um, stomach acid to digest your minerals.

[00:23:33] You need minerals for like every process in your. They’re so important for health. You need stomach acid to be happy. You need stomach acid to absorb B12 and zinc and all these good things that are good for. Digestion and health and happiness. So would I rather give up Tums or, uh, gut health Tums for sure.

[00:23:54] I like whenever I see it at someone’s house, I’m like, Hey, can I replace that with some stomach acid boosters? And they’re like, no, that’s gonna kill me. And I’m like, no, it’s not. , it’s gonna be amazing. It gets rid of Harper and it creates you don’t have to shoot yourself in the. Using Tums. So anyway, yes, definitely.

[00:24:12] I would rather give up Tums, but 15 years ago, whatever, 20 years ago, maybe not. I just didn’t know. So Nikki, you wanna wrap it up for us?

[00:24:23] Nikki: Yes, I do so sacrifice an active giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy. And so. As hopefully we’ve helped you see and has we’ve helped you demonstrate that the sacrifice is, is worth it. , it’s worth it, but, and, and ultimately it doesn’t become a sacrifice because you’re able to better see the value.

[00:24:51] In the changes that you’re making, but we know that it’s hard to change your lifestyle because we’ve been there and we’re, and, and, and we’re not, we’re not always finished, like, like with our kids and with our husband and with our own bodies, we are living in a fallen world. Right. And our bodies are not perfect.

[00:25:09] And so. We’re always constantly learning and always having to make changes. Like for example, I just took a food sensitivity test three, like a month ago and I am highly sensitive to eggs and that is lame.

[00:25:21] Sydney: So lame.

[00:25:23] Nikki: It’s so lame and I’m like, I am having a really hard time cutting them out. I can do it for like a week or so.

[00:25:30] And then my kids make yesterday was my birthday. My daughter made some custard and I’m like, I have to have four bites. And I had four bites and I woke up, my eyes were super puffy and my lips were burning and I’m like, man,

[00:25:45] Sydney: Would you rather

[00:25:46] Nikki: Yes exactly. Like we totally get it. We’re not just like, like telling you what to do. We’re we’re saying we understand, and we totally get this process, but reminding ourselves, even that the sacrifice that this, the things that you value now are so much worth the sacrifice, because I know that if I take my eggs, My gut will be able to heal from the, the continuous onslaught of the food sensitivity.

[00:26:12] And I will be able to eat eggs again, and I’m looking forward to it. But I also am looking forward to the short term benefits of cutting them out of better sleep, not having so much constipation. It kind of makes my knees hurt sometimes. And my lips burn. I’m like, I’m just, I’m excited about that. So long term and short term benefits there, but we get.

[00:26:30] We totally get it. Um, and we’ve heard from many of you and we know that for many of you, energy is low and it’s hard to lose weight. And many of you have shared that is also hard to focus and organize your day. So we wanna let you guys know that we’ve been working on something for a while now, and we’re super excited about it.

[00:26:50] Because it’s going to help you learn to take all the tools of nutrition or nutritional therapy that we talk about and make them a reality for you in your life. So that this isn’t just something that you hear and forget, but it’s something that you can really integrate into your life and see the benefits of integrating it into your life.

[00:27:06] So it will be coming soon. So stay tuned and we will see you guys next week. 

[00:27:14] If you want to permanently change your lifestyle to nourish your body in ways that create the foundation for wellness. A really great place to start is with our sugar. 

[00:27:24] Sydney: It’s a free digital package that you can use to help you actually remember the five things that you need to be doing every day. It also includes tutorials that you’re going to love.

[00:27:35] Get the sugar bundle for free by going to coaching with Nikki and sydney.com backslash sugar. And if you’ve already downloaded the bundle, we’d love it. If you would rate and review us on apple podcasts, it will help us to reach more people. 

[00:27:51] Nikki: The information on this podcast has not been evaluated by the FDA and is not intended to diagnose, treat. Or cure any disease. It is not intended to be a substitute for the advice, treatment and or diagnosis of a qualified, licensed professional. 

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